Tools used for AI Writing

[Debbie Metoo]

Do ppl here use AI Writing tools or write (or get people to write) manually?

If you use tools, could you describe the tools you use and how you use it to write articles.

 

[Ted]

So far I just use ChatGPT. I am sure there are more expert techniques, but if I can succeed with simple methods then everything else should be better.

 

[Corey]

Yes,. Extensively. I tried many but GPT API is what I use. (currently testing Deepseek) You can generate amazing results if you take the time to create descriptive prompts or use author styles, i.e. Ask ChatGPT, "In 1 paragraph describe Woodstock in the style of Hunter S. Thompson being careful not to inject ai cliches.

The result is amazing, last sentence gives me chills, "It wasn’t a festival—it was a mass hallucination, a tribal gathering of America’s lost children dancing in the eye of the hurricane, the last great hope of a doomed generation before Nixon and the machine crushed their skulls beneath the steel-toed boot of reality." How many humans do you know who could write a better closing sentence on that topic? Me either. AI writers are amazing. But you need to tell it what you want.

Here's a great tactic. Ask GPT who the top author is for your topic, then ask it to write about your topic in their style.

Want to write a social invite for an auto event? Ask GPT who the best auto writer is then use their style. Or better yet, cross pollinate, you can get some amazing results. Ask GPT to write a birthday invitation in the style of Stephen King, or a Linkedin Ad in the style of P.J. O'Rourke. You will be amazed at how engaging you can make your content.

When I write articles in GPT the main thing is always guiding the emotion and intent, the words are irrelvant, it's the reaction I need. Organic engagement. If you craft amazing sentences people spend more time on your pages. I approach it from a "make people feel this way" and "focus on this emotion" angle in my prompts and so far so good. Share your results! I will double back once I have properly tested Deepseek.

 

[Debbie Metoo]

So far I just use ChatGPT. I am sure there are more expert techniques, but if I can succeed with simple methods then everything else should be better.

Do you use it in any special way? For example, do you just use one prompt and lump everything in there or you use a few prompts or you do the article one section at a time?

 

[rogeryin]

Yes,. Extensively. I tried many but GPT API is what I use. (currently testing Deepseek) You can generate amazing results if you take the time to create descriptive prompts or use author styles, i.e. Ask ChatGPT, "In 1 paragraph describe Woodstock in the style of Hunter S. Thompson being careful not to inject ai cliches.

The result is amazing, last sentence gives me chills, "It wasn’t a festival—it was a mass hallucination, a tribal gathering of America’s lost children dancing in the eye of the hurricane, the last great hope of a doomed generation before Nixon and the machine crushed their skulls beneath the steel-toed boot of reality." How many humans do you know who could write a better closing sentence on that topic? Me either. AI writers are amazing. But you need to tell it what you want.

Here's a great tactic. Ask GPT who the top author is for your topic, then ask it to write about your topic in their style.

Want to write a social invite for an auto event? Ask GPT who the best auto writer is then use their style. Or better yet, cross pollinate, you can get some amazing results. Ask GPT to write a birthday invitation in the style of Stephen King, or a Linkedin Ad in the style of P.J. O'Rourke. You will be amazed at how engaging you can make your content.

When I write articles in GPT the main thing is always guiding the emotion and intent, the words are irrelvant, it's the reaction I need. Organic engagement. If you craft amazing sentences people spend more time on your pages. I approach it from a "make people feel this way" and "focus on this emotion" angle in my prompts and so far so good. Share your results! I will double back once I have properly tested Deepseek.

this is genius , thank you!

 

[Corey]

Do you use it in any special way? For example, do you just use one prompt and lump everything in there or you use a few prompts or you do the article one section at a time?

I do use single prompt but in that case it is usually a very detailed multi-line prompt. I also use assessor scripts to weed at scale. You can't weed manually when you have 1,000 videos going out in a day.

Long story short last year I made a virtual focus group script based on Frank Luntz's work. I tested it on some of Lisa Parziale's video titles. It was amazingly good but way too expensive to run because the personnas are huge. With Deepseek I might be able to bring it back, I'll try it this week.

Anyhow the assessor scripts were a bi-product of that cost failure. Simple scripts that attempt to spot duds, errors, or just generally isolate "only the most engaging content".

I also stack scripts. I love to stack scripts. Keep feeding your outputs back in with new modifiers until the end product is truly quality and original. Ask it to write something in an author's style, then re-write it in another author's style, every time you repeat this step you get further away from the original but in a guided flow rather than pure gen. In pure gen you are getting pure probabilities, in a re-write those probabilities are being shaped by the content.

How many of your favorite songs have co-writer credits? It works.

To be clear it depends on application. For certain product videos I might only say "summarize this" because GPT knows a lot about them. One client is a military antiques dealer, GPT has profound and detailed knowledge on all their items — even the very obscure ones. It always has. So possibly GPT was originally trained on a corpus including military history. I did thousands of military history book reviews, GPT knew them all. That made it easy.

So when it's something easy and fact-based use the smallest prompt possible, when it's something designed to get humans to engage emotionally, be more detailed or stack.

The other issue is uniqueness. If you tell it "give me 10 videos about lawn care" it might give you these 5 ideas that are essentially identical:

1. "Lawn Care Made Easy: Your Step-by-Step Guide to a Lush Green Yard"
2. "The Beginner’s Guide to Lawn Care: Tips for a Healthier, Greener Lawn"
3. "Lawn Care Basics: Everything You Need to Know for a Perfect Yard"
4. "Mastering Lawn Care: The Essential Guide to Thick, Green Grass"
5. "Lawn Care for Beginners: How to Grow the Perfect Lawn from Scratch"

To avoid this I would add a uniquess requirement to the prompt. So instead of "give me 10" I might say "Give me 10 that each cover one important aspect" or whatever, or even guide it more, i.e. "Give me 10 that each over one important aspect, be sure to emphasize customer benefits and satisfaction", etc.

Visualize what you want to yield, imagine the roadblocks AI would have, then prevent them in your prompt.

Last point would be factor diversity, getting it to generate HTML that includes a wide range of elements to maximize on page diversity. So I might give specific formatting direction like "include at least one bullet list and bold all the keywords" or whatever. In other words give thought to ways you can add SEO value within the structure.

If I think of more I will post, feel free to ask more questions, always happy to share. Cheers.

 

[Debbie Metoo]

"Ask it to write something in an author's style, then re-write it in another author's style, every time you repeat this step you get further away from the original but in a guided flow rather than pure gen. In pure gen you are getting pure probabilities, in a re-write those probabilities are being shaped by the content."

Could I ask why you would ask it to write in one author's style, then ask it to write it in another author's style?

 

[Corey]

"Ask it to write something in an author's style, then re-write it in another author's style, every time you repeat this step you get further away from the original but in a guided flow rather than pure gen. In pure gen you are getting pure probabilities, in a re-write those probabilities are being shaped by the content."

Could I ask why you would ask it to write in one author's style, then ask it to write it in another author's style?

We narrow the probabilities to make the output more deterministic.

Prompt: "Give me a one sentence story about a dog and cat"
GPT: "A stray dog and a lonely cat formed an unlikely friendship, sharing scraps and warmth under the city’s flickering streetlights."

Prompt: "Give me a one sentence story about a dog and cat in the style of Richard Bach"
GPT: "The dog and cat, once bound by instinct’s old script, leapt beyond the illusion of rivalry, soaring together on the unseen currents of love and freedom."

Prompt: "Rewrite this in the style of Judy Blume"
GPT: "The dog and cat used to fight like, well, a dog and cat—but one day, they just looked at each other, shrugged, and decided being best friends was way more fun."

Prompt: "Rewrite this in the style of J.K. Rowling"
GPT: "The dog and cat had spent years locked in a battle of hisses and growls, but one fateful evening—perhaps under the influence of a little unnoticed magic—they simply sat side by side, as if they'd always belonged together."

Last one is amazing, first one is terrible. We guided it to a result that will better engage humans. Hopefully this helped. Never hesistate to ask follow up questions, always happy to answer. Cheers.

 

[Corey]

Just learned from Clint today that if you manually edit you can now copyright AI content, here's a timestamped link:

 

[Ted]

Do you use it in any special way? For example, do you just use one prompt and lump everything in there or you use a few prompts or you do the article one section at a time?

I use it for supplemental content in accordions down at the bottom.

Write a list of 100 things to consider when choosing a DUI lawyer in Los Angeles. Be sure to use at least one of the following words in each line item: *word list*

 

[Jamesc]

Yes,. Extensively. I tried many but GPT API is what I use. (currently testing Deepseek) You can generate amazing results if you take the time to create descriptive prompts or use author styles, i.e. Ask ChatGPT, "In 1 paragraph describe Woodstock in the style of Hunter S. Thompson being careful not to inject ai cliches.

The result is amazing, last sentence gives me chills, "It wasn’t a festival—it was a mass hallucination, a tribal gathering of America’s lost children dancing in the eye of the hurricane, the last great hope of a doomed generation before Nixon and the machine crushed their skulls beneath the steel-toed boot of reality." How many humans do you know who could write a better closing sentence on that topic? Me either. AI writers are amazing. But you need to tell it what you want.

Here's a great tactic. Ask GPT who the top author is for your topic, then ask it to write about your topic in their style.

Want to write a social invite for an auto event? Ask GPT who the best auto writer is then use their style. Or better yet, cross pollinate, you can get some amazing results. Ask GPT to write a birthday invitation in the style of Stephen King, or a Linkedin Ad in the style of P.J. O'Rourke. You will be amazed at how engaging you can make your content.

When I write articles in GPT the main thing is always guiding the emotion and intent, the words are irrelvant, it's the reaction I need. Organic engagement. If you craft amazing sentences people spend more time on your pages. I approach it from a "make people feel this way" and "focus on this emotion" angle in my prompts and so far so good. Share your results! I will double back once I have properly tested Deepseek.

Cheers Corey. I used the author idea in Claude and the results were incredible. Beats 90% of writers we have hired. I didn't get as good a response from ChatGPT for my niche but both came back with the same top author name.

 

[Corey]

Cheers Corey. I used the author idea in Claude and the results were incredible. Beats 90% of writers we have hired. I didn't get as good a response from ChatGPT for my niche but both came back with the same top author name.

Caleb Ulku, a youtuber, did a video on Deepseek vs GPT this week that was interesting:

I will revisit Claude based on your post this week and see if I can get better results. Cheers.

 

[Targetedseoservices]

This is one of the prompts I use to write articles.

You Must write 1000 words, only using these keywords, adding "keyword suburb" 20 times, adding the keyword "another keyword" 10 times and also must Add the keyword "more keywords" 5 times, and also must Add the keyword "more keywords" 10 times and Add the keyword "state" 10 times. Add the keyword "even more keywords" 10 times. In all the articles, put all keywords in bold. The article needs a title at the start. Each paragraph must have a heading without any colon or colons. Each heading needs to have "main keyword" at the beginning of each heading. You can use bullet points in the article 2 times. Don't add the word conclusion to any headings. Add any Entities, Topical Authority or LSI words to the relevant article.
Does the Ai listen and put the exact amount of keywords, no however it does a good enough job in one prompt to rank the keyword in most suburbs for me. I look at Ai as being a teenager sometimes they listen other times not so much.

 

[Corey]

I've been trying a new method where I have a chat with GPT about the topic first. Share my viewpoint, debate a bit, until it has the right angle and isn't just trying to "be woke" then I ask it to write the article. Much better results. Not just more relevant and accurate, but genuinely emphasizing the correct points for engagement. Highly recommend trying this method.

 

[calibytes]

ChatGPT and DeepSeek are my go to. Pretty much have my process down perfect for great content